Should you save pumpkin & squash seeds for next season?

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I thought I was being a little premature in already thinking about next year’s growing season but having asked around on Twitter it appears not… I think the gloomy July weather has us all day dreaming. Personally pumpkins are on my mind a lot right now, specifically the genetics of the seeds that will be inside the fruits I shall harvest this coming Autumn. At my allotment I have grown over ten types of squash and pumpkins this year and that makes the seed offspring situation somewhat complex and I’ll explain why.

    1. If you sow any ‘F1’ type pumpkin seeds then the second generation seeds inside your squash and pumpkins will not be like the parent generation you have grown this year. Next year’s plants may be infertile, they may be inferior or they may just be OK. It’s a gamble.
    2. If you sowed any open pollinated (OP) heirloom seeds then the second generation for next year may be fine to use IF the plant pollinated with a different plant of the exact same variety.
    3. If the plant pollinated with itself (known as ‘selfing’) then it will possibly be weaker whether you sowed F1 or OP/Heirloom seeds at the outset. The plants will keep getting weaker each season if they keep selfing because of ‘inbreeding depression’.

What this all means is that unless you have controlled the pollination of the flowers yourself by hand (using small bags or nets to keep bees and other pollinators away from male AND female flowers) then you really have no idea what to expect from this year’s squash and pumpkin seeds if you sow them next year. It’s a lottery, it’s a gamble and I don’t know about you but for all the effort I put in at the allotment I don’t want to gamble!

There is another complication too… hybridisation

Pumpkins and squash are members of the Cucurbita species, a species of plants originally from the Americas, domesticated by humans around 10,000 years ago and brought to Europe by ancient explorers. The Cucurbita species includes pumpkins, squash, courgettes and gourds and there are five families:

  1. Cucurbit Maxima
  2. Cucurbit Pepo
  3. Cucurbit Moschata
  4. Cucurbit Mixta
  5. Cucurbita Argyrosperma (formerly Cucurbita mixta)

One of my 2016 Turks Turbans (C. Maxima)

In Europe most of the seeds available to us today reside within three of these families; Maxima, Pepo, and Moschata. What’s important to know is that squash and pumpkins within each of the Cucurbit families can cross with each other to pollinate and produce hybrid squash next season; A courgette plant for example could cross with a Connecticut Field pumpkin as they are both members of the Cucurbit Pepo family. The offspring might be a pumpkin sized courgette or it could be orange round courgettes. They would still be edible of course but not suitable for showing. Cucurbit plants cannot hybridise with other Cucurbit families (Maxima to Pepo for example) so you could grow one member of each family and be a lot more assured of the next generation’s seed genetics.

In my own case I have several members of all three of these Cucurbit families growing on my plot, the bees are largely open pollinating them. My neighbours are also growing many varieties of squash and pumpkins and bees can travel two miles! Therefore the seeds I harvest in the Autumn will have a high degree of hybridisation or inbreeding which in essence is a low degree of reliability. As our annual squash and pumpkin show chief Richard likes to label them… ‘mystery squash’.

Hand Pollination

There are only two exceptions for me:

    1. My giant pumpkins (Maxima family), both ‘Bert’ and ‘Ernie’ have been crossed with each other by hand / brush and pollinator exclusion. But they had the same parents so I’m not entirely sure what to expect next year… I probably should add a new giant parent next season for crossing and genetic boosting.

 

  1. American Tondo (Moschata family) again I hand pollinated these by crossing two different Open Pollinated Heirloom plants because I wanted reliable seeds next year.

Below is a list of the three main squash and pumpkin Cucurbit families, their more well-known varieties and whether I have grown them this year. Any of the potential varieties labelled ‘grown’ could have been hybrid pollinated by the bees on my behalf, so I won’t be reusing any of those seeds next year (aside from the aforementioned hand pollinated ones).

Family: Cucurbit Maxima

  • Turks Turban (grown)
  • Uchiki Kuri (grown)
  • Atlantic Giant (grown – hand pollinated)
  • Rouge Vif d’Etampes (grown)
  • One Too Many
  • Musque de Provence
  • Jarrahdale
  • Jack-Be-Little
  • Red Warty Thing

Family: Cucurbit Pepo

  • Courgette (grown ‘Jenner’ and ‘Golden Dawn’)
  • Pattypan
  • Connecticut Field (grown)
  • Howden
  • Jack O’ Lantern
  • Jack Be Little
  • Baby Bear (grown)
  • Honey Bear

Cucurbit Moschata

  • Butternut Squash (grown Walthams)
  • Black Futsu (grown)
  • American Tondo squash (grown – hand pollinated)
  • Long Island Cheese Pumpkin
  • Musquee de Provence Pumpkin
  • Seminole Pumpkin
  • Dickinson field pumpkin / Libbys

I do quite fancy the idea of crossing an Atlantic Giant with a Turks Turban to create a Giant Turban hybrid but it would take a good decade to do with genetic reliability.

You may also like two other related articles I have written:
How to grow giant pumpkins – my tips for success
Buying Seeds – F1? Hybrid? Heritage? Does it matter?

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Matt Peskett is GrowLikeGrandad (if you want to know why read 'About the Editor). He has a 'heavy clay' allotment and is a member of the Dorking Allotment Holders Association (DAHA). Matt also has a medium sized 'sandy soil' hillside garden (Italian terrace designed) and enjoys photography - especially nature. Matt takes inspiration from gardens like Hidcote, Great Dixter and Sissinghurst and enjoys watching anything on TV with Monty Don in it.

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